Comments on: Creating a Trust-based Collaboration Market http://blog.innocentive.com/2008/08/07/creating-a-trust-based-collaboration-market/ Highlighting Global Open Innovation Wed, 08 Feb 2012 21:56:18 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: John http://blog.innocentive.com/2008/08/07/creating-a-trust-based-collaboration-market/comment-page-1/#comment-35089 John Thu, 27 May 2010 11:50:00 +0000 http://blog.innocentive.com/?p=87#comment-35089 Excellent posting. Can't wait to read much more about this topic. Excellent posting. Can’t wait to read much more about this topic.

]]> By: Glynda-Lee Hoffmann http://blog.innocentive.com/2008/08/07/creating-a-trust-based-collaboration-market/comment-page-1/#comment-4865 Glynda-Lee Hoffmann Fri, 23 Jan 2009 15:28:07 +0000 http://blog.innocentive.com/?p=87#comment-4865 I like this conversation. Not being a scientist, I find it fascinating that you all are working out mechanisms that jump the brain from neocortical thinking to frontal lobe thinking. Frontal lobe thinking is based in personal and social awareness, which is based in trust. Trust means, essentially, that you do what you say you do. Trust isn't just a feeling. It's verifiable. I trust you because what you say and what you do are the same. If people are trustworthy it means you can trust what they say because you know, from experience, their actions consistently match their words. In the past most men, especially scientists and academics, did a lot of their thinking from the neocortex, which values recognition, leading to social position. Trust doesn't have much value in such a system. I have no doubt you all will be successful in creating this new system, because another frontal lobe function is intention. Intention harnesses not only known information. It turns us toward the unknown. Intention reaches into the unknown to grab something new. I like this conversation. Not being a scientist, I find it fascinating that you all are working out mechanisms that jump the brain from neocortical thinking to frontal lobe thinking. Frontal lobe thinking is based in personal and social awareness, which is based in trust. Trust means, essentially, that you do what you say you do. Trust isn’t just a feeling. It’s verifiable. I trust you because what you say and what you do are the same. If people are trustworthy it means you can trust what they say because you know, from experience, their actions consistently match their words.

In the past most men, especially scientists and academics, did a lot of their thinking from the neocortex, which values recognition, leading to social position. Trust doesn’t have much value in such a system.

I have no doubt you all will be successful in creating this new system, because another frontal lobe function is intention. Intention harnesses not only known information. It turns us toward the unknown. Intention reaches into the unknown to grab something new.

]]> By: Michael Nielsen » Biweekly links for 08/19/2008 http://blog.innocentive.com/2008/08/07/creating-a-trust-based-collaboration-market/comment-page-1/#comment-211 Michael Nielsen » Biweekly links for 08/19/2008 Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:45:48 +0000 http://blog.innocentive.com/?p=87#comment-211 [...] Perspectives on Innovation » Creating a Trust-based Collaboration Market [...] [...] Perspectives on Innovation » Creating a Trust-based Collaboration Market [...]

]]> By: David Ritter http://blog.innocentive.com/2008/08/07/creating-a-trust-based-collaboration-market/comment-page-1/#comment-207 David Ritter Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:35:42 +0000 http://blog.innocentive.com/?p=87#comment-207 Thanks for the very thoughtful responses. A couple of take-aways: First, reputation precedes trust. I liked the concept on the Naymz site of "verification" -- having other people certify that what you've said about yourself is true. This is a lighter-weight, easier notion than "recommendation", as on LinkedIn. If I knew you, I could quickly scan your online resume and check a box that says "I know this information to be accurate." Seems like there are some obvious potential ways to game this system, but it's a start towards quickly bootstrapping a reputation rating network. Second, value and trust get tangled up with each other. To share something that I feel is highly valuable, I need to trust you more than I would if what I'm sharing is worth less. It seems useful then to have something of a reverse bidding system -- "To work with me on this project, you need to have a reputation rating no less than X" -- where X gets bigger the more value you feel you bring. This is a generalization of the common practice on eBay where sellers often say "Don't bother to bid if you have 0 rep". I'm looking forward to continuing the discussion. -- dhr Thanks for the very thoughtful responses. A couple of take-aways: First, reputation precedes trust. I liked the concept on the Naymz site of “verification” — having other people certify that what you’ve said about yourself is true. This is a lighter-weight, easier notion than “recommendation”, as on LinkedIn. If I knew you, I could quickly scan your online resume and check a box that says “I know this information to be accurate.” Seems like there are some obvious potential ways to game this system, but it’s a start towards quickly bootstrapping a reputation rating network. Second, value and trust get tangled up with each other. To share something that I feel is highly valuable, I need to trust you more than I would if what I’m sharing is worth less. It seems useful then to have something of a reverse bidding system — “To work with me on this project, you need to have a reputation rating no less than X” — where X gets bigger the more value you feel you bring. This is a generalization of the common practice on eBay where sellers often say “Don’t bother to bid if you have 0 rep”. I’m looking forward to continuing the discussion. — dhr

]]> By: R R Dasgupta http://blog.innocentive.com/2008/08/07/creating-a-trust-based-collaboration-market/comment-page-1/#comment-196 R R Dasgupta Sat, 16 Aug 2008 09:01:55 +0000 http://blog.innocentive.com/?p=87#comment-196 I am not an IP lawyer but I think it will be worth examining the discussions on Trust in a Collaboration Market from the point of view of a Social Contract (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract) of sorts to begin with and evolve to a Innovation Contract if you like. Reputation precedes Trust and hence we need to develop a Reputation System based on a 360 degree review of ratings from peers, sponsors and other reputed professionals. I found an interesting example at Naymz (www.naymz.com), which could be refined to suit the scuentific community. Despite all of the above and more, we could still face challenges around specific erring individuals who would in any case get marginalised by the forces in the innovation marketplace. The motivation to collaborate in today's innovation economy will far outweigh the demotivation to share because each one of us will, by participating in that economy have put our lifetime's reputation at stake. I am not an IP lawyer but I think it will be worth examining the discussions on Trust in a Collaboration Market from the point of view of a Social Contract (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_contract) of sorts to begin with and evolve to a Innovation Contract if you like. Reputation precedes Trust and hence we need to develop a Reputation System based on a 360 degree review of ratings from peers, sponsors and other reputed professionals. I found an interesting example at Naymz (www.naymz.com), which could be refined to suit the scuentific community. Despite all of the above and more, we could still face challenges around specific erring individuals who would in any case get marginalised by the forces in the innovation marketplace. The motivation to collaborate in today’s innovation economy will far outweigh the demotivation to share because each one of us will, by participating in that economy have put our lifetime’s reputation at stake.

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