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Very much ecological accident in connection with failure on a chisel platform excites! I will dare to offer such way of the decision of a problem On a deep-operating vehicle fix the manipulator which could to press a pipe and to bend the pressed site on 90 degrees below rupture. I will be glad if the given method or its principle helps problem elimination. Мр. Andrey Rossija Voronezh

I can think of a couple of ways that the effects of this spill could be kept to a minimum. The first step is to isolate and contain as much of the affected area as possible. Since production has been stopped, fill the unused barrels that the oil would have ended up in with the contaminated water, allow to settle and since water and oil are not miscible the mixture will eventually settle into layers and the oil can be siphoned off. If this approach isnt fast enough you could heat the mixture to just above boiling. Water vaporizes will vaporize more quickly thanthe heavier peroleum products and will be exhausted as steam leaving sludge behind that can be more easily disposed of/ processed. If the problem is collecting the contaminated water, mobilize all available crafts with the ability to collect water and run a “dragnet” starting around the perimeter of the spill working toward the center, using caution to stir up as little of it as possible. Ideally one would set up some sort of pumping/containment system at the source of the spill and try to reverse the gradient of the spill where it becomes a ring instead of a slick.

Here’s a rather expensive but very effective method would be to bring a fleet of oil tankers down to the gulf and pump them full of the contaminated water. Once full they can bring the ships to doc and since the tanks are emptied from the bottom the the water will be released first and the most oil part can be later refined.

Problems with this….

1. Commissioning oil tankers – expensive
2. Sea water can damage the tankers – more expensive
3. Pumping approximately 1 billion tons of water into each of these tankers is time consuming

Pros

1. The oil that was spilled can be salvaged.
2. The gulf will be cleaned relatively quickly and the damage to wildlife will be kept to a minimum.

Construct a sliding-door mechanism in two parts: 1. a U-formed grooved rail and 2. a steel plate fitting exactly in that rail. The rail can easily be mounted around the pipe into the basalt – there’s no pressure – , then remove the pipe and slide the steel plate into the rail.
Regards,
jk

Ok, how about this. We stop using these dirty fossel fules and do something else. The stone age didn’t end because they ran out of stone…

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I GUESS THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE OIL SPILL, I HERED SCIENCE FRIDAY AND I AM PUTTING MY TOW CENTS IN. MY SUGESTION IS TO USE LADDER DREDGES OR SUCTION DREDGES NEAR THE COST. CAPTURE THE SPILL AND SAND AND PUMP THEM INTO LAND SO CAN THE SEA WATER AND THE OIL CAN BE SEPARATED

THANK YOU,

MARIO PEREZ VARGAS

Don’t cap it, put a straw on it. drop long sheets of plastic (the straw)around the leak to seal it and guide it to the surface. The straw will have a weight at the bottom to keep it on the surface bottom. Drop rings around the straw that will maintain neutral boyancy at different depths. Drops weights to the floor which are used to anchor the rings and give the straw stability. Draw up the water/oil mixture until the water has been evacuated and all you are getting is oil.

How about making sure that you have contingency plans and backup plans should something like this occur in the first place??? Risk management? You can’t tell me that BP didn’t play the “what if this happens” game before building this multi-million dollar catastrophe. I just had to cancel my family vacation to the beach because of these clowns. Think of all the hard working people out there that are on the shrimp boats, the fishermen, the restaurant owners, tourism, all of this has been affected because someone decided “this will probably never happen.” YOU ARE DRILLING WHERE NO MAN CAN GO TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS!!!
“Ignorance is doing the same thing over and over again, expecting the same result.”

What a lot of tosh. The Federal Governement, as usual, has let us all down. It mandated in 1994, some 15 years ago that there shall be multiple fire booms located arounfd the GOM to help deal with such an incident. How many wo we have in the US. One, yes just one. Pathetic. If you or I failed to comply with a law that the federal Government put in place we would be fined, or even go to jail. What happens when the federal government fails to comply with its own laws. Nothing.
Ignorance is doing the same thing over and over is it. how many ol spills have there been in the Gulf. One serious one. Now. So what over and over are you yapping on about. I am going to guess Derek that you used a solar powered device to get on the internet to post your well educated comment on this blogg. I also guess that you walk everywhere, or at worst ride a bicycle. I expect you live in a cave and grow your own crops. What do you think it is that drives our economy. We all enjoy the benefits of oil whether we are honest enough to admit it or not. How do you think the shrimp boats are fuelled. How are the planes which transport the tourists to the beaches fuelled.
Grow up.

put the sea floor oil wll head turn off valve on top of the oil contanment dome box. In giving the box turn on turn off capablity. It creat’s a saving’s of $18,000,000.00. when the box drop’s 5,000 feet to the sea floor. it save on secondary leass’s $250,000.00 per 160 ton barge X time’s two barges . plus a $875,000.00 lease. in leasing a sea crain. It’s about $17,000,000.00 for sub sea il contan-ment oil dome,
with the $400,000,000.00 sea floor oil well [turn on / tur off valve on it]. Usely i do [ lone wolf Inovation's]. Plus a consulitent fee [ what it should be shoud be descust buy fellow team meamber's].
It’s usely about $25,000,000.00 for this type proget ,plus team meamber bio feed back descuion].

for my friend at dept of defance & Dept of Energy. My friend ask me to step out from cognitio an be a civilien world team player for once. In saving the gulf of mexico from oil palushion. the way mother would put it is a dollar saved is a dollar earned. It more presintion work to get me in the systiom.

Now one can factery shrimp. two shrip will lay 12,000 egg’s twice that 24,000 egg’s. before going to the cooking pot. bottem half is cookit. the upper half is dryed an udes for ferdaliser. it a three tear crop.

put the sea floor oil wll head turn off valve on top of the oil contanment dome box. In giving the box turn on turn off capablity. It creat’s a saving’s of $18,000,000.00. when the box drop’s 5,000 feet to the sea floor. it save on secondary leass’s $250,000.00 per 160 ton barge X time’s two barges . plus a $875,000.00 lease. in leasing a sea crain. It’s about $17,000,000.00 for sub sea oil contan-ment oil dome,
with the $400,000,000.00 sea floor oil well [turn on / tur off valve on it]. Usely i do [ lone wolf Inovation's]. Plus a consulitent fee [ what it should be shoud be descust buy fellow team meamber's].
It’s usely about $25,000,000.00 for this type proget ,plus team meamber bio feed back descuion].

for my friend at dept of defance & Dept of Energy. My friend ask me to step out from cognitio an be a civilien world team player for once. In saving the gulf of mexico from oil palushion. the way mother would put it is a dollar saved is a dollar earned. It more presintion work to get me in the systiom.

Now one can factery shrimp. two shrip will lay 12,000 egg’s twice that 24,000 egg’s. before going to the cooking pot. bottem half is cookit. the upper half is dryed an udes for ferdaliser. it a three tear crop.

I have the solutions

So here’s my idea…

Using the (presumed) abundance of sail and net makers in the region, stitch together a huge ‘inverted parachute’ of the strongest flexible fabric available… perhaps in multiple layers. Provide multiple attachment points on the circumference of the parachute for securing cables. Transport the lot to the site. Weight the parachute center with just enough mud or concrete to carry it to the bottom as a ‘point’. Maintain (some) tension on the circumference cables using multiple surface vessels. Slowly add concrete and allow the parachute to spread, gradually releasing tension on the cables.

It seems to me that – provided the parachute construction was of sufficient strength – the weight of the concrete should eventually be enough to overcome the wellhead pressure. The flexibility of the parachute should allow for irregularities on the seafloor.

Peter Bunn

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Why are we trying to cap off the broken piper. I suggest that a bigger pipe should be slid over the broken pipe and that the bigger pipe have a neoprem rubber nozzel in the front so when the bigger pipe slides over the existing pipe, it can make a sealed fit. If the bigger pipe can slide over the pipe long enough than it can be welded in place.It might be a good idea,before installing the bigger pipe,that a collar be put on it,so that you can weld a few feet away from the crack.

For containment of what has already escaped into the Gulf, I would think a weighted rubberized sheeting that can be sealed together maybe like a big ziplock type seal and extra reinforcable snaps could be place around the area to keep it in a centralized area and then brought to the top of the water and syphened off and separated or burned. Something like a huge rubber tube. I don’t know what the material is that lines garbage dumps to keep the toxins out of the ground water or anything that would be plyable/flexable enough to go down 1,000’s of feet that could withstand the extream cold temperatures, but just a wild idea I figured I would throw out there. If there was a way to go deeper with the boom idea instead of trying to control the surface situation, I think that could have saved alot of the after-the-fact clean-up. Joking about my idea, I said put a big condom on it, but maybe more like an upside down rubber funnel which may be more along the lines of the top hat idea now. My idea may be too late now, and may not be possible, but thought it was not a bad idea to put out there.

huge battery charged lead plates, dropped into the ocean creating a sea wall that attracts negatively charged oil that can then be brought to shore and scrapped off. The BP straw is more funny and less technical resulting in huge savings more profit and extreme contamination for years. Get with the program and get er done dog.

ask our goverment to send milatry in to place a explosive device and seal the dam bkoen pipe some devices take out all oxgyen out of water so fire wont start then make and i say make bp clean up all the damage and pay for a new licence and have rigs inspected every month or more o this does not happen again new safty laws needed and make it so oil companys cant charge it back to the american people for there mistakes

Solution #1: Bring up the 4 story house and retro fit at least 4 large valves onto the top of the house. Send it back down with all the valves open to allow for the gas/oil/hydrogen mixture to escape. Once the house is in place and the mile long line is connected to the surface close all four valves. Good Luck.

Solution #2: Bring house up, cut the top in half and put a hinge on it. Weld some turnbuckles/latches/pad eyes or what ever the submersible robots can hook to and rotate to secure the hinge cap we just created on top of the four story house. Lower it back down with the hinge cap open to allow for all the gas to escape while your putting it in place.

You’ll have to send down an extra cable pre-connected to cap so you can somehow use the crane top side to close the cap because of the pressure involved, I doubt the robotic submersibles will be able to do it on their own. Good Luck.

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Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill—
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This is a rather simple solution, much like the curtain on an old fashion bathtub, circle the problem area with a solid plastic sheet, then use an oil water separator on a barge and pump out the bad water and filter it back into the affected area, slowly reducing the pollution level in the affected area.

The other option is a giant circular sponge that soaks up more oil than water and run it through an affected area, then through a set of rollers at the top into an oil water separator and essentially make it a paddle wheel for contaminated water

Gulf of Mexico Oil Spill….
WAS THE WELL CASING SUBJECTED TO PRESSURE ELONGATION ?
I know that on the North Slope of Alaska there are well pads, where the well casing can
rise as much as 4 to 6 inches due to thermal expnansion, but the reservoir pressure deep down is usually relatively low, so there is no un-intended gusher to fear if there is cracking of the cemented seal.

On the other hand: Suppose the shut-off pressure on a deep relief well in the Gulf of Mexico is going to be in the 60000 psi range, and the thickness of the casing pipe is-even for quenched and tempered
material -inadequate to limit elongation of the pipe due to internal pressure, then the
following question arises:
Will the final injected cementing material between the casing and the wall of the drilled hole beneath
the sea floor be able to fully restrain the elongation, or will it be subject to cracking if the pipe “sees” any amount of pressure elongation?
Will the well be pressure- tight if such cracking of the cement occurs?

Bernie Hasenknopf
British Columbia, Canada

Too late by one day with Idea – Shut off well using age old wild well tech – unbolt/disconnect riser at flange upstream of bent riser above the BOP. Using a standard hydrulic, or electric, or manually actuated valve with a flange matching the flange just disconnected, place the valve (valve in open postion) in the stream of oil and mate up flanges. Using nut and bolts (bolts pre welded to valve flange), or explosive bolt anchors, or hinged “C” clamps preattached to the valve flange, secure the mated flanges – then close valve.

My two cents worth:

Construct a large bell-shaped steel dome with valves on the top. The bell will have a large lipped base around the complete perimeter.

Lower the bell onto the leak with the valves open. As soon as the bell is resting on the sea floor over the leak, pump thousands of cubic metres of concrete into the confines of the lipped base around the perimeter of the bell. Once enough concrete is in place to comfortably overcome the pressure from the leak, slowly close the valves.

A strip around the perimeter of the base that comes into contact with the sea floor would probably need to be made of a flexible material to ensure when the concrete fills the lip it bears down to create a complete seal with the sea floor.

I don’t have any idea of the scale of the pressure from the leak and hence dont’ know how big the bell would need to be. Admittedly it might be a very big bell and an awful lot of concrete, but I see no reason why it could not be made to work.

Well we would not be going through this crisis if Bush got the acoustic switch system. The acoustic switch system is a switch that blows out the bottom of the catism in other words it stops the oil exactly from the source. Bush told the companies like BP that we have a new policy its the ” Close Door Dick Chenney Policy. That Dick Chenney program allow the industry to bypass safe systems. He felt there was no need to spend 500,000 dollars on the switch.

Read a few ideas above very similar, posted originally on April 24th on a Puerto Rico website. Here are the ideas at 2 links
To prevent more oil into/onto Gulf:
http://www.ipernity.com/blog/140862/257199

To prevent oil from going onto beaches:
http://www.ipernity.com/blog/140862/257190

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If you use an idea all i ask is that a respectable amount of the profits be used to help children worldwide in anon sectarian method ,peace

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